oh please, we all know John McCain is so old, he would've had a heart attack on the spot if he had been elected and then we'd be stuck with someone who can "see Russia from her house"
haha thats actually funny, admittedly she is horrible. but McCain is an amazing and honorable man who would have done great things. Tell me one good thing Obama has done? This doesn't count we still have thousands of our men out there in harms way, he didn't end anything. Our economy is shit and the democratic taxes are killing it. plus all that health care BS, not okay. all he is is talk
One good thing - tried to shut down Guantanamo bay. However, I suppose that's more of an opinion piece. What McCain would've done is irrelevant, as we'll never know what he would've ACTUALLY done, we simply know what he said he'd do, case in point: Obama. Obviously we can't trust politicians.\n\nNewsflash, our economy has been shit for ages, Obama didn't cause that, he simply got the term where he had to start cleaning up the mess.
Actually, "Stalin", she didn't say that. What she said was "They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska." But you wouldn't know that because instead of actually thinking for yourself you let the liberal media tell you what to believe.
Do all of you think the president can just snap his fingers and make things happen? Obama is not even half-way through his term in office. Honestly, a lot more could get done if there weren't such sharp party lines in this country. The President isn't the only one with power, people. Remember Congress? And the Senate? \n\nAnd what in God's name did Bush do that was so great in his first two years as President? Get us into this war. Hurray, so productive.
Sharp party lines where democrats have a house majority and can pass anything they want without a single Republican vote. Must be hard getting things done without Republicans in the way. Your own Democrats have been the ones that have been slowing down his "productivity" because even some of them can see how terrible his policies are. The only way they get passed is if they tweak some of the bills to essentially bribe those who vote for it.
Okay, you're right about the house majority. But my point was that Obama is not the only person involved. And just because I am somewhat liberal doesn't mean I'm a Democrat. Independent, geesh.
Well, considering that the unemployment rate dropped several points during his presidency, and lowered taxes for small businesses, I'd say a hell of a lot more than Obama. Besides, the failed stimulus package cost MORE than the entire war in Iraq..... Thats ok, 75% of the country believes that the government is here to HELP! Any politician preaching "CHANGE!" should have thrown up huge red flags to anyone with common sense.
So the government isn't here to help us? What about "of the people, for the people?" I'd much rather have money spent in America, helping American people when they need, than on some war that we have absolutely no business in.
If you want to put it that way, everyone is here to make money. Doctors, therapists, teachers. But they all still serve a purpose. I realize that politicians have other motives, but my point was that the purpose of a government is to serve the people and maintain social order.
The issue was the war was (almost) completely unnecessary. Iraq wasn't involved in 9/11, and believe me when I say Al Qaeda isn't just stationed where U.S. forces are.
Don't you conservative d-bags have better things to do than troll TFLN discussion boards? You know, like thump your bibles or hate the poor, the non-straight, and anyone brown?
Actually, look at the unemployment rate while bush was in office...... Extending unemployment is like throwing gasoline on a fire in hopes of extinguishing it. Instead, how about giving small businesses incentives to hire people! Nah, that's too easy. Oh, and what about the fact that Obama's stimulus package cost more than the war in Iraq? Try getting your news from someplace other than MTV
saying he simply signed it is trying to completely downplay the situation. Google isn't going to help anyone understand politics, which is pretty evident in your case
No. It's funny that you condescend to people about "googling it" and "getting your facts right" when you don't even know what you're talking about. There were numerous stimulus packages, some signed into law by Bush and others signed into law by Obama. Bush was already out of office by the time the most recent were drafted and voted on in congress.
ohhh...i thought the economy was fine until the democrats took over congress. and if obama's so great. then why in a year and a half has he not improved the economy but actually made it worse? i guess you're not here for this part...
How does one man change an entire country in a year and a half? It takes time and just because our economy isn't great doesn't mean him being in office won't improve it. And last time I checked we were fine with democrats leading the way, then bush adminstration ran everything into the ground and the democrats have to build it back up. So don't hate untill he is given as much time to fix it as bush had to destroy it.
Neither Bush nor Obama raped the economy, the banks did that. The president doesn't choose to make the economy turn into a shitstorm and has very limited control over that.
First off, why do people think that throwing in a "shit" or "fuck" in a sentence when talking about politics makes their point any more accurate? CAITIE12, "Obama is a bitch" has nothing to do with anything... I am now dumber for reading this... \n\nSecond, Republicans believe that the rich employ the poor, there for there is no need to take money from the rich to give to the poor. They do not "shit" on the poor. They just don't believe that you should take what
What about government programs to "help" the poor? Where do they get the money? By raising the taxes! Who gets affected the most? Small Businesses! My boss needs to hire more employees to grow. But if our company expands, he will be making LESS money! Where is the incentive to grow and hire employees? Oh, and did I mention that next year it will cost him an additional $15,000 for every employee in the company? I got a great idea, lets extend unemployment for another year! That will solve everythi
dont you conservatives have anything better to do than hate everyone whos even a little brown? obamas not perfect and his own party even is aware of that but policies aside, even if he was doing verything to please everyone somehow, people would still hate him for having a drop of ethnic blood. people tryna pretend they dont have any kind of internalized prejudice against the man, thats some bullshit if i ever heard it
Annon:9:41pm. You're correct. Bush took a full 8yrs to turn the economy to shit, not 4. And what is it with you Bush people? Arguments are pursuasive only if you call names? Sounds like weak argument buttressing.
Funny...anyone remember when America was FEARED? When our enemies didn't dare attack because we were united? Now thu're saying it ain't even worth it, because our government is destroying us on their own.
Wow I can't believe he did something in office. He takes more vacations than any other pres. The war is not over tell the last troop steps off the plane. Until then the war is on.
@k66aggression are you daft? Bush let Bin ladens family fly out of the country that day. Then we went to Iraq because of oil I suggest you educate yourself before you chastise somebody else
The only thing Obama ended was the official combat mission in Iraq. The US will still fight there, opress the Iraqi people, and prop-up a weak government.
hey bitchass caticupcake, think before you talk. im probably a helluva lot more involved in politics than you. maybe pay attention to what goes on in our country and what the president is doing. maybe look into how he got into office and who he surrounded himself with. better yet pay attention to Glen Beck
Anyone hear about the federal aid cuts they're talking about applying to college financial aid? Just got an e-mail from my school. Guess who's most affected. The people who actually need the money. If I can't pay for this, I'm going to Canada...
Ahh. The N-word. Last place of sanctuary for the feeble minded. Well... Blacks are still here. They aren't going anywhere. And our -yes OUR- prez is still black. Grow up!
Not sure if links are allowed on here but if you look up Jack Cafferty rips Obama you'll see that even some of the CNN reporters are sick of Obama, Pelosi and the Democratic Party that failed.
You are retarded. Economies don't turn to shit in 4 years, the grounds laid down for the recession happened way before bush got in. Who knows what caused the ground being lain but what really fucked us up was when retarded people bought houses they couldn't afford in hopes of flopping the house and when that didn't happen they lost everything. Because of this, banks lost the money they would have made on the house payments, the banks then close and then stocks fall
Most of you that have posted on this need to get your facts in order and stop believing what SNL or MTV is telling you. There are really important issues at hand here. Stop acting like idiots and learn what is actually going on about important issues like: the economy, taxes and healthcare...... And I'm pretty sure we are past the point of blaming Bush. Let's not forget that the Dems have been in controll since 2006.
@ohnothingreally, first off we were fucking attacked dumbass or do you not remember when the towers and pentagon got hit and we lost hundreds of innocent lives? Bush made a statement saying that America will not tolerate that shit, and that we will retaliate and make the taliban/bin laden family pay. stop being so arrogant and educate yourself in politics before posting ignorant shit
step off ohnothingreally; they've already professed apology/confessed factual inaccuracy. tho honestly when one debates politics in general, it's *always* an Us vs Them animosity fest. in the same country. this entire presidential election already speaks broodily of a total Falling Roman Empire a la Civil War Part Two: Electric Boogaloo fashion. if everyone could stop finger-pointing for one second & realize most political parties are required to run the US simultaneously, *all* would accom
Phi316-Ur so right. Other black presidents blacks have voted for: Carter. Clinton. Kennedy... Heyyy... Wait minute... Oh that's right. Your argument is FUBAR
Th economy has been in the hole for years and years. It all comes down to Americans no longer produce products. Less things being made mean less revenue. Less revenue means bad economy. Here's an idea tax companies less and let them hire people in the us instead of outsourcing it to india and china.
Obama is the worst president we ever had followed closely by Bush. McCain an Palin wouldn't be better either. We the people should stop counting on shitty government to solve our problems and fix them ourselves.
Let's take a look at John Locke, now his pamphlet (correct word for the publishing) literally says if the Gov. is not protecting the peoples rights then the people can and should rebel peacefully to establish new order. If anyone here can see a way the our rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are being infringed then go ahead and rebel, but until you do STFU. thank-you
S45: Wow. The N-word. Last sanctuary of the feeble minded. Let me guess: your mother is also your sister too, right? Seriously though, what happens after that insult doesn't work? Another beer with your son/boyfriend?
1) not a "war"
2) "combat operations" have been terminated but we are still FAR from ending our occupation in the country. There will still be security details and patrol troops
@aiko- you don't pay very close attention do you? You probably think spending $1.5mil to study ants in Africa is a successful stimulus. Read a book ffs
Obama is a stupid fool that needs to be impeached. He never had any qualifications to be president. All he knew how to do was pay off people and threaten! He is soooo not hot!
Yup. Guess he's the ONLY politician or human being to EVER tell a lie. Fortunately he hasn't lied about WMD to get us into a war where our attackers weren't.
In my opinion republicans are all very intellectual individuals, especially their very intuitive represenatives, such as glenn beck and sarah palin. Thier genius is wildly comparable to the brightest minds... Of fuckin worms. Not to rash all republicans, only the braindead conservatives and teabaggers. Have a great life of blissfull ignorance while people who care about the future, not just the present, take care of what will get us moving toward a less corrupt society. By the way, taxes save our asses in
Hmmmm, or maybe the recession isn't completely and totally the government's fault! Maybe, just maybe, it's the American people as a whole who have royally fucked our economy by taking out retarded loans that they can't possibly pay back, amongst other things. So stop blaming the damn government and start assuming responsibility for your own shit pile of problems, America!
Obama is quite possibly the worst president ever. He beat McCain because he's black, half the people that voted for him had no clue what his policies were, they did it bc they're black too...that's why he won't shut down the borders. Bc he needs the minority vote to try and stay in office.
When congress/Bush gives out corporate welfare but will NOT give tax breaks to individuals who are NOT in the top 3 percent and refused to regulate golden parachute big business for 8yrs is what screwed up the economy. You don't trust big gov't. I don't trust big business
Obama: 1,000 times better, smarter, more honest than Alfred E. Nueman looking, WMD liar, no Nobel prize, too dumb to figure out a closed door, G.W. Bush
@bant so now it's bad to say support our troops? The troops didn't start the war, but many of them do feel they're putting THEIR life on the line to preserve YOUR freedom to speech. don't use it to insult them you ungrateful piece of shit.
You know, for those people who are actually downrange and fighting this war for all you ungrateful civilians, just know that our country's soldiers, marines, airmen, and sailors don't care about who's in power or what the reasons for the war are. They're just concerned about doing their jobs and living another day so that they can go home to their families, not a bunch of booing civilians who don't know what it's like to be one of them. Do your part and support our troops.
i was about to debate but its clear the right won this. its nice to see im not the only ome with brains on this site. idc if im an extremist, im sick of all this politically correct bullshit. he didnt even end any war. fuck obama, fuck pelosi, and fuck liberals.
K66aggression.. You're just some dumb little uneducated creep who probably knows nothing about politics besides what the right winged dumb f*cks that made the mistake of birthing you have told you.
First of all, (regardless of your misinformation of obviously many topics) its not an insult to tell someone their life (no matter what the circumstances) is a mistake, its just cruel. and secondly you're a jackass. and third, they call us the right, because we are :)
Obama wasn't born in this country he wasn't a Christian an the only reason he won is because all the trashy ass blacks who ne'er have voted in their life went an voted for him! That's it! Obama is about as useless as nipples on a guy! Fuck him!
Talvicious: where are YOUR facts? Saying it's so doesn't make it so -fact: HUGE surplus lost during Bush years. Recession? Yup. Started during the Bush era. WMD the "reason" for war with Iraq? Bush LIE. Obama; smarter than Bush. My doormat is smarter than Bush.
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